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Originally Posted by Blue Z34
I mean.. I am kinda trolling a little lol. He should get what he wants. Ultimately it is his car. And I know the auto isn't "bad." In 2009 Car and Driver called the shifts "lightning quick." ...in 2009. It's 2014. They recently re-tested the Nismomatic and came up with a different conclusion this time. But in reality we are talking milliseconds here anyway. The Z is one of the purest sports cars on the market.. a focused two-seating purpose built performer. There isn't a four-four version, nor an AWD or FWD variant, or 4 different engine options.. it is what it is. Pure and awesome. And the manual with synchro-rev..the first manual transmission to ever have it..is far more advanced and far more fun than the auto. Period. That goes for the base Z and the Nismo. The ONLY time that the 7AT shines brighter than the 6MT is on the drag strip..where shift times really matter. Otherwise the manual is faster. Every time.
Sometimes when I show people my car and they ask if I have a stick I tell them no I got the auto just so I can see their face. Never once has a person been like "omg yeah! You went for the auto!"... No.. people's faces range from bewilderment to disgust as they struggle for something nice to say or a change of topic. Then I tell them I was joking. They laugh with me. I laugh with them. Told them I man.. I got a MANual. Yeah it's trivial but if one cares about that sort of parking lot banter it's also something to think about. Me personally though.. I'd get the manual even if it was a half second slower.. the complete control over the car is worth it to me. Idk when I'll ever want an auto in my sports car. Probably never.
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This is my whole point: When you aren't arguing performance or feel, but rather social perception of "good/right" "bad/wrong", we're into territory that has nothing to do with cars...
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Originally Posted by b15
Here we go again with the comparisons and justifications.
If you bought a manual bc your concerned with image, you're stupid and insecure. If you have a 7at and feel the need to justify your purchase over a manual by constantly making comparisons to dct, 1/4 mile times, etc, you're equally as stupid and insecure.
No one cares. Enjoy the car
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True enough, but no one is publicly (and not really in a tongue-in-cheek way) telling anyone they're a huge wuss making an unforgivable mistake for buying the MT. So what you're saying is, people who get publicly lambasted should just deal with it -- after all, what do they expect for openly admitting to such an embarrassingly terrible and unmanly choice?
And clearly people care. A lot. There wouldn't be a new thread every 15 minutes if no one did.
Here's an idea: When someone posts a thread on "which should I get?", the default recommendation could be "Test drive both and choose the one that you prefer" (where have I heard that before?).
Any follow-up response by the OP after "just test drive 'em" is almost certainly going be a plea for social approval... and then we're back to this whole thing.
I'm pretty convinced this issue simply won't die until there just aren't any sports/sporty new cars equipped with three pedals, and then people will look back on this whole debate as quaint and or silly.
On another note, tonight I watched the director's cut of Night Breed -- no CGI, all physical special effects.
Call me old fashioned, but I prefer the old school physical special effects -- even the cheesy ones -- over the modern computer generated ones. They feel visceral and real. Not so polished and plastic. They require real hands-on control and inventiveness and a genuine passion for the art of making special effects come to life. To me, CGI is a relatively cold, and artless process, where a computer interpolates data points from a few specific inputs.
Should I just shut the hell up and be glad Gollum is not a guy in a rubber suit? Am i making a big stink out of something silly, glorifying something antiquated? Does it matter? Are cool movies with neat effects still happening or has the digital revolution ruined these personal expressions of a man and his vision, created with his own hands?
Totally unrelated? Not so much to me. Same fukin' argument, different hat.