Originally Posted by FPenvy

never trade your car in. only reason to ever do it is if you are getting a super good deal and they bring a pornstar in to blow you while signing the papers.

dealer gives you way less so they can make big bucks on it.

been helping a friend get a 2012 370z with low miles all the packages and nav. book is typically 27-29k retail trade in is about 25-26k although most likely dealerships will offer you 20-24k so they can sell ask 30k and sell for 27k and still make money.