Originally Posted by Malm

my magic 8 ball says they are going to try to get you into a 14 , and your payments will be "slightly" higher than they are now..and they will just tell you "sign and drive" hoping you impulse buy a 14 z.

Every time I go to the dealer for oil changes, a new sales man tries to get me to trade in for a new one.. they ask me "how much are you paying a month for the car?" I tell them zero, because I paid cash. Then they usually leave me alone.