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Originally Posted by Red370
No sir. What I will do is say that 332hp, for a NA V6, regardless of price, is DAMN good. You have your opinion, I have mine. You choose to compare the VQ to an engine that costs 4 times as much, and in doing a comparo, you compare the average engine output for its size with other cars IN ITS CLASS, by which the GT3 is not. Now back to the point at hand, also comparatively speaking, your comparing a Flat 6 against a V6, two completely different configurations, one built for efficiency and power equally, and one strictly for all out speed applications. Case in point the VQ, excellent power while having decent fuel economy. The GT3 is a race bred car, and thats it. So to say that 332bhp for a V6 is bad, i'd say you are terribly misguided sir.
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I do agree that the V6 and flat 6 are two completely different configurations. However, fundamentally, it is still a 6-cylinder putting out a similar displacement as the VQ, and yet, putting out considerably more power. So my point remains valid - a 6-cylinder can significantly outperform the VQ, given the resources for development.
Your point, as highlighted above, is that you want to compare the VQ ONLY to motors that cost "about the same". You mentioned money situations specifically twice, and "in its class" (since we're talking sports cars here, it can be safely assumed you meant price-point, just like my LAST post said...) once. So, you yourself are alluding to the fact that you think 332 HP from a 6-cylinder is pretty good for this price-point. Which, as I already said, its not too shabby.
So, this brings up the simple question: do you honestly think 332 HP is "near the peak" for a V6? And with what motor-building background do you have to reinforce your theory?
MY point is, that you can always get more power - raising your compression and requiring a less-forgiving tune will gain power right off the bat. Using a more efficient exhaust configuration that may be less forgiving as far as emissions wise, but better flowing would help. Researching a better head design will yield more power, also.
The source for more power is always there, but of course your price point goes up. So, going off your DIRECT quote right here:
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...but 332 is almost at the peak for a naturally aspirated V6...
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...you are wrong. Flat out, plain and simple. There are ways to make more power. I am not misguided, I am correct based off your original criteria, which was simply this: 332 HP is almost at the peak for an N/A V6. 332 HP IS, however, almost the "peak" for how little we are spending on the car.