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Old 04-07-2014, 09:50 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by clintfocus View Post
i dont have a issue with zero toe in the back, i ran slight toe in before, then went zero and didnt find the rear any less stable
Awesome! great to know. yeah I think I want to start with 0 rear toe and see how it feels. There's a test and tune I signed up for Sun.

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed View Post
You can't do much in class.

Dial in minimal camber in the rear. The rear camber curves are aggressive and you want to be flat as possible to get power down. I like a little toe in out back on the Z, but it's personal preference.

You definitely need toe out up front, how much is preference. I kept mine pretty aggressive for autoX, but it makes the car trouble on the highway. 1/8 should be a good starting point.

A good front bar will help reel in the rollover the Z struggles with as well. In my experience the Hotckis is too stiff to use without extremely aggressive camber dialed in, but others have had different experiences.

The square setup should do you well. I'd consider going down in height next round of tires for the gearing advantage, nice to have on the autoX course.
Dan,
Thanks for the detailed reply. I agree with you as it's limited what I can do in Stock Street category. But I like it bc I rather be a fast driver in a slow car than "OK" driver in a fast car.

I'm def. leaning toward toe out. Going to try 1/8" total toe out in the front and see how it feels. When you can car "wobble/trouble" in highway, how bad is it? Z still daily driver and I drive pretty high speed in highway. As for going down on height, I think 35 was the least high in 285 tires. I could be wrong.

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AK

I have a setup simialr to yours. Front swaybar, 275/35/19 square on stock rays and no front camber arms. I did some research and came up with zero toe up front, either zero or 1/8 toe in, in the rear and -1.5 rear camber. I got these numbers from the forum and then found an article on motoiq that suggest the same setup, hope that helps. Also I saw that toe out is good but I dont want the car going all over the road on the hwy. http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticl...ing-your-Toe.a

The Ultimate Guide to Suspension and Handling: Part Six, Adding Negative Camber
Nice! good to hear. I don't have front sway . May next year I'll try a mild (eiback/stillen mid setting) Front sway but for now, stock will do. Any reason why you picked 0 toe in the front vs. slight toe out? I heard toe out in the front helps turns in autox.

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When you went square, did you match the rim widths? or stayed with the front stock width?
stock width.




an autox course in a pouring rainy h*ll


This is from EVO school yesterday

Looks awesome! there's a slight bulge but barely noticable. Feels good on the pavement. I run usually 37F/38R or 38F/39R

thanks.


So, tomm is the day (I'm hoping) I get the alignment done. Kind of finalized on:

Front: 1/8" total toe out in the front (I keep hearing it helps turn better in autox)
Rear: -1/5 camber and 0 toe.
100% stock Z suspension setup. stock F and R sways.

I am just curious, since my Z is a daily driver, how bad will total 1/8" of front toe out will affect me? I drive in rain and high speed on highway.
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