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Originally Posted by Chuck33079
A 13 has never been fast. It's quick, but not a fast car at all. Is it impressive a 1.whatever liter shitbox ran it? I guess. There's a huge difference between a mid to high 13 and 12s. And you're comparing a modified car to a stock car. If you include modified cars, there would be a list a mile long of full interior, street tire and pump gas cars running better than that all motor. And using "streetable" as a crutch to explain why the car isn't fast is weak. If you have to make it undriveable to hit lower than a 12 then you picked the wrong car.
I'd rather be embarassed in the Z than be in the Honda at all.
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A 1.6 (B16A) or 1.8 (B18C) Naturally Aspirated ran 13s. Power to weight. H22 with port & polish with all bolt on's, high 12s no prob..Hondas were hitting 12s NA in the 2000s and prior. Streetable meaning what? pass smog, then yes, a few were streetable.
13s has never been fast?...STOCK NSXs, Z32 TTs, FD3S, Supra MKIV TTs, Vette C5s and older, BMW M3s prior to E92s, even Ferrari F360s...all hit 13s...and they were CONSIDERED fast for their era.
I'm not trying to start a flame war. I don't like ricers neither because they're posers. But well built Hondas are fast for what they are.
The "sleeper" factor is what shocked/embarrassed the smug challenger.