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Old 11-06-2009, 10:10 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I used to love pioneer .... used to. They seemed to go dramatically downhill circa 2002. Not sure if they ever turned back around like conch is saying, but I used to be the biggest pioneer brand snob, now, eh. Now that I think about it, the quality seems to of started going down around the same time they changed logos:



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