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Originally Posted by Joepro
This is not a personal attack against you OP, I work at a multi franchise dealer in service, do you realize how petty these issues are in the big picture, I actually work for Honda I am an Advisor, and say what you will, I know what I am doing. I have a LIST of common issues with Hondas that I see, no car is perfect, just as our Nissans are not, if you are trading out of this car it is for other reasons, not a bad CSC or master or whatever it was, there are proven aftermarket alternative parts that work, i.e. zspeed hd csc . I work with a former Nissan service manager, and their warranty system is not as forgiving like Honda, if your run the part number and it bounces, it's NOT COVERED, a car is no different than any other product with a warranty, appliances, lawn equipment, you name it, a limited warranty is a agreed upon time or mileage when you purchase the car, if you do not like the terms of the warranty, buy another car, which you have... maybe if you cause enough fuss, you will get help...Honda is a push over, we give out goodwill like it is candy, Nissan is not... The general consumer is unable to see the big picture or understand terms ansd conditions, and to this day growing up in this business(3rd generation in service,but I want out) I cannot for the life of me understand why consumers feel the car company is obligated to fix a vehicle out of warranty, blows my mind...How do you think all the goodwill and BS(some are legit I know) warranty claims are paid for(hopefully rhetorical)?
I would take an accord or base tl over that cheap pos they are calling a Benz(no offense on your decision, just my opinion)...our benz dealer is 50 yards to the right of my building and I have seen these cars...Sounds like the sports car life is not for you, this is the stuff we take on with owning a car like this. I guess I see it different because of my experiences, but glad to hear your car is fixed.
This is not personally directed at you OP, just a little venting obsevation.
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Understandable. I understood the "expenses" that came with a sports car. I do my research before buying cars, nor am I naive. I also know plenty about aftermarket parts that work, as I put 15K into my '08 Si before the Z. Any expense I had for that was acceptable, something that I said "hey, that's a part of the game." Not something like a steering wheel lock stranding me and then a clutch failing before 30K. I know you aren't trying to take it out on me, but stop justifying the BS. Should I allow myself to accept mediocre? No.
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079
And you think an entry-level Benz is going to be more reliable than your Nissan?
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Considering what my job is, it automatically is, new or not. I have a job in sales now. I can't be driving a RWD sports car in all kinds of weather, day in and day out. This was my DD.
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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91
Yeah, not only less reliable but more cost cutting services. Its a volume model with less overhead for extras, like good service.
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Well, the nice thing between different humans is the difference in opinion. What "good service" is to you may not be the case with me. I have a close friend who has had a C300 for 3-5 years now and said he's treated like gold. I went to the same dealer as him. Does that mean I get the same service? Of course not, but I like my chances. At least I get a loaner when/if this car breaks (unlike Nissan) and the warranty is already better than theirs from the get go. Also, I've never seen someone be so upset that someone else is buying a car that you don't pay for. I dealt with enough fanboys in my Honda days, don't be that guy.
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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91
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Again, I do my research before I buy a car. I've looked at all this stuff. Also, way to point out the one horror story and hope that would help your case. That story ended up working out in the end. Shall we do a Google search on the 370Z's known issues and compare?
I didn't think so.
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Originally Posted by Joepro
just for fun, common honda issues, I wont go too indepth but here are a few:
Civics incl si(8th gen) 3rd gear syncros, oil consumpsion, vtc actuators,
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That's a lot easier to accept than the steering wheel lock and a failed clutch, as I stated. My 3rd gear had that issue VERY rarely (where it'd be a bitch to go in). I accepted it and replaced all of that when I started putting a lot of money into that car.
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Originally Posted by Jordo!
I thought there was a TSB for this?
Unless they can verify its wear and tear on the clutch plates and not the failed internal seals issue, they are full of **** and it should be covered.
Search the TSB forum and also be prepared to phone Nissan corporate -- good luck!
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Trust me. I did. For the hundredth time, I do my research. The part they labeled it as is not covered. They likely beat around labeling it the CSC because they knew I KNEW that it could be covered that way. There was no beating around it, I got screwed.
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Originally Posted by nismolucino
Im a mercedes benz technician, and I would not recommend the cla. It just feels very cheap and you will be very disappointed with the performance. Even the cla45 amg isnt impressive to me. I also would definitely sell it right before the 4 year/50k mile mark, because once it goes out of warranty and things start to break it can be very expensive.
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I'm happy with the performance. I've driven the car. A 4-cylinder turbocharged engine with 200HP vs. a V6 with 325HP. Do you think I expect the same exact performance? No. It has pep like my Si did and that's why I loved my Si. It was my pocket rocket. Now, I don't expect my CLA to be that exactly, but it has a great mix of fun, tech, and luxury. Nor does it feel cheap by any means. I was able to afford plenty for it...feeling "cheap" isn't an issue, I can assure you.
My mom had a BMW 3-series in the past. I'm familiar with "luxury car expenses" and how they happen to break right after the warranty runs out (ironic, eh?). After the lesson I learned with the Z, I'll be buying the extended warranty after the 4/yr, 50K runs out.
Bash all you want (certain few). It's not your decision to make. I didn't randomly just start hating Nissan, they've pushed me to this point. I love my Z. Never once do I recall saying I physically hate my car. However, I hate being treated like a naive clown and that's why I'll be leaving happily. Stop acting like Nissan is paying you a dime to justify their issues, especially in customer service. I have a job in sales now, as I stated. That is a factor as to why I'm getting rid of it. Stick isn't your friend in traffic every day and when you have to stop business to business (I'll miss it, I've driven stick for 6 years now). Nor is having a low vehicle with no trunk space. The CLA is a lot more fuel efficient and has technology to help that even more so (the start and stop), it was an easy sell and I got a hell of a price on it. The 4-MATIC was the cherry on top. I won't have to worry about winters up here so much anymore.