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spearfish25 · 12-19-2013, 09:07 PM

Don't get me wrong, the CTS-V will amaze the daylights out of you the first time you drop the hammer and see how it can go like a bat out of hell. I've never felt like I need more power in the V but I did in my Z.

There were a few things about the Z that I miss. I had the Stillen CBE and some high flow cats which made the car a blast to drive. The sound was perfect. The steering in the Z is some of the best I've ever experienced. Frankly, I think the Z's steering feel trumps that of the M3 and the new Porsches I've had a chance to drive. The V has artificial weighted steering that doesn't compare. It can grip in the corners but you always know you're piloting a giant and not a gymnast.

I think the Vagon is a perfect every day driver kind of car. It'll cost you a fortune as a track day car because it will vaporize tires and brakes with its weight. If I had the Z still, the Vagon would be my daily driver and the Z would be my weekend fun toy. I need the utility of the Vagon given my 7 month old daughter who needs to ride in the back and the dog that goes in the way way back. Also, the Vagon is a tank and does amazingly well in accidents. It's the perfect balance of utility, sport, speed, and family car. But I now understand that paying more for a car doesn't mean it will give more pleasure. In fact, I think that the more I pay for a car, the more critical I am of the car and its flaws. If I ever drop $130k on a 911 GT3, I will critique the hell out of it and be very unhappy with any shortcomings. And then I'll just say I miss my Z again.

Living in Naples has been interesting though. In the 8 months I've been here, I've seen 3 SLS AMGs, 2 Ferrari 599s, 2 458s, a McLaren 12C Alpha (6 in the world), innumerable Rolls and Bentleys, Lambos out the wazoo, and a total of 0 other V-wagons. Either I have poor taste or it's just a rare car.

12-19-2013, 09:07 PM	#57 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Don't get me wrong, the CTS-V will amaze the daylights out of you the first time you drop the hammer and see how it can go like a bat out of hell. I've never felt like I need more power in the V but I did in my Z. There were a few things about the Z that I miss. I had the Stillen CBE and some high flow cats which made the car a blast to drive. The sound was perfect. The steering in the Z is some of the best I've ever experienced. Frankly, I think the Z's steering feel trumps that of the M3 and the new Porsches I've had a chance to drive. The V has artificial weighted steering that doesn't compare. It can grip in the corners but you always know you're piloting a giant and not a gymnast. I think the Vagon is a perfect every day driver kind of car. It'll cost you a fortune as a track day car because it will vaporize tires and brakes with its weight. If I had the Z still, the Vagon would be my daily driver and the Z would be my weekend fun toy. I need the utility of the Vagon given my 7 month old daughter who needs to ride in the back and the dog that goes in the way way back. Also, the Vagon is a tank and does amazingly well in accidents. It's the perfect balance of utility, sport, speed, and family car. But I now understand that paying more for a car doesn't mean it will give more pleasure. In fact, I think that the more I pay for a car, the more critical I am of the car and its flaws. If I ever drop $130k on a 911 GT3, I will critique the hell out of it and be very unhappy with any shortcomings. And then I'll just say I miss my Z again. Living in Naples has been interesting though. In the 8 months I've been here, I've seen 3 SLS AMGs, 2 Ferrari 599s, 2 458s, a McLaren 12C Alpha (6 in the world), innumerable Rolls and Bentleys, Lambos out the wazoo, and a total of 0 other V-wagons. Either I have poor taste or it's just a rare car. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z Last edited by spearfish25; 12-19-2013 at 09:14 PM.