Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I just read your last part. You probably better just drop the ban hammer, because your pet passion (the 370Z) has cost me hundreds of dollars to maintain, even under warranty, is still having random issues, and has the trade-in value of a Daewoo.It's not my pet passion. I have never asked you to buy 370z or sign up to this forum. You have done them on your own. You can not blame me for your own action. NO one forced you to buy a 370z. I respect your polite appeal to cease and desist, and I ask that you respect the fact that you being a good guy (which you come across as, and thanks for your candor), is not enough to fix thousands of dollars and countless times of being without a ride, or in some shitty electric car that I am scared will leave me stranded and with a $250 tow-bill (what they told me it would cost), or any other number of minor annoyances. I understand where you're coming from. I have dealt with shi**y dealers in past. I have driven 45 miles to get my car serviced where nearest dealer was 3 mile from home. I know it's frustrating and I don't blame you for trading it in as it DIDN't work for you. However, you can't just label the car as pos just because you had a troublesome car or your dealer is horrible. I hope you're seeing where I'm coming from. Respectfully, I WISH we could trade places, and the only 370Z issue I had was related to some guy spreading an uncomfortable truth on a forum I moderated for fun. The difference, here, between actuality and being a troll, is that I actually drive the car I am talking bad about. I have the right to say what I want, as long as it's true. of course you do. that's why the forum is here. But there's a fine line between saying "MY car is having issues" or "my car keeps breaking down" vs. "370zs are big pos:, "370zs suck" etc since as you can see the rest of the owners DO NOT share the same experience. Now, this forum is private, and you have the right to censor it,It is private and I do. If it was other admin, they would close the thread and ban the member. But I wanted to hear your story and wanted to provide you my feedback/reply of course, but I'm not going to feel bad about sharing my situation, or expressing displeasure. If I were lying, that would be one thing, but I'm just sharing and I'm not happy about it.

So put yourself in my place.

You've been polite, you've raised your voice, you've finally had to make a scene in the dealership to get your **** even somewhat fixed.

You've been lied to by the service manager. It's cost you hundreds of dollars.
See the stuff in BOLD? these are all dealer problems.

Nissan North America has told you that whining power steering is normal, and has only reimbursed you for some of your maintenance costs.Can you take a video of this whine? I think your dealer is making up stories and feeding to you. I don't even think they are calling Nissan usa. Did you sit in other 370z (member or dealer owned)to compare yours vs. their car?

I've appealed to everyone. Dealership. Nissan NA. Before that, politely the forum asking advise.

Now I'm trying to trade it in, and it's worth so much less than any domestic car of similar MSRP in similar condition.This is not true. Domestic cars loses value much worse. A brand new corvette is 60K. 1 and half year later, it's only worth 40K. Only car holds somewhat value in Domestic is Chevy. But everything else is horrible.

So what do you do? Do you just hang your head? Do you mess some lives up?Do you wanna know what I'd do? a. I'd ask the forum admin AK370Z how can I get a hold of regional dealer manager/directors. These guys are in charge of all regional dealers. I have all these guys direct numbers and emails. I call these guys and express my issue. b. I go to different Nissan dealer that will treat me right. C. I trade in and buy something else. I don't like headaches.

Well, I'm not going to mess anyone's life up over a car, and I'm also not going to just shuffle off quietly. I'm going to share the factual recount of my experiences as a cautionary tale to others every chance I get.

If you don't like it, I'm sorry 'bout that. Nothing personal, and business is business, so feel free to do what you do, because I won't take that any more personal than you should take this.