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Old 12-19-2013, 12:24 AM   #86 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by AK370Z View Post
Hi,
How can do you still have 3 years/36,000 miles bumper to bumper warranty and still "tired of paying for repairs"? Anything happen during 3/36 is fixed under warranty with no questions asked. I do not understand that statement. Please elaborate

The service manager swore it was my driving style that caused rotors to go bad every few thousand miles (but the pads and tires looked good...), and very heavily leaned on me to put some slotted rotors on it. That came out of pocket. When they, too, warped in 500-1500 miles, and Nissan NA became involved, he lied to my face and said he never said that, and that he would NEVER suggest non Nissan parts. So I was SOL on that expenditure.

AND if you're so concerned with paying out of pocket for repair, why didn't your buy Nissan Silver or Gold preffered warranty? This will help how? 3/36 wouldn't cover it. Why would some aftermarket warranty cover it?They are darn cheap! My car currently has 83,xxx miles and I still have bumper to bumper till 2016 or 120K miles. Do you know how many trips I have made to the dealer for repairs in my last 5 years or 83,000 miles? 3 times. 1st time I overtightened one lug (Front Right wheel) with a faulty Harbor Freight tq wrench (totally my fault. Can't blame Nissan). 2nd instance was when steering lock went out but it was the most pleasant experience I had considering the crappy situation (steeling lock going bad). A flatbed tow truck was sent with a very courteous driver, I sat with him to dealer, dealer gave me rental till the car is fixed. One time I ran out of fuel because the gauge told me 1/5 tank left, the trip-read said 120 miles left, but I was going up a bridge in a corner, it fuel-starved, and even once on level ground and showing 8X miles to empty, would not crank. Dealer told me SOL, have it towed. My Dad came and put some gas in the car and it fixed the issue. Shitty gauge. Never had a car run out of fuel still showing that much fuel on the gauge and over 80 miles to E. Dealer overnighted the steering lock and the very next day I had the car back in perfect shape. I don't know how much better experience I can ask for. 3rd instance was with crank position sensor. As usual, dropped the car off and walked out with a loaner. Everything was done within 2 business day and ALL I had to pay was $50 deductible. Nice. I didn't get a loaner except twice. Once was a damn LEAF with barely any charge on it, and once was a shitty Altima. My car has been at the dealer for nearly a week before for this brake issue. I miss the shitty Altima. It performs as advertised and was reliable.

If your car is giving you power steering whining, you need to take it to the dealer. They don't give a ****. You're still under 3/36 and they will fix it free. You get a loaner. No you don't. Whining to us, isn't going to solve anything. I'm not complaining, I'm warning others. You complained about brake issue. The issue is "not so great" akebono rotors. They go bad around 30K. Nice, mine went bad at 10K, 17K, 23K. I changed them to Stoptech regular replacement from tirerack ($97 a piece for front and even cheaper for rear) and you should come drive my car! Even 25K miles later on those rotors, car stops on a dime, no shake or vibrations what so ever. Cool, Z1 must use **** then. They warped the same week that they put them and Stoptech pads on.I did 1 hpde track day and about 90+ autox runs this year = no issues. I personally think pneumatic wrench has nothing to do with it. Why? bc my mechanic used pneumatic wrench many times after stoptech replacement, no issues. I changed tires at shop and pneumatic wrench was used, no problem. All I can say is what they told me, but we both suspect they are lying. Forum is the place where you research and find out what's wrong and go fix it. Instead of arguing, learn and change should be the right attitude.

Lets switch position for a sec: lets say you're the admin of a huge Mustang 5.0 forum and I'm importconvert_5.0, a member who owns 5.0 mustang. Every day I constantly bash this 5.0 Mustang to no point, I call out Ford as a pos, I call out mustang as the biggest pos, I wish to hurt the Ford any way I can by spreading my stories and engage in regular argument with 5.0 enthusiasts that their car sucks! What do you think will happen to me on that forum? Let me let you in a real secret: I'll be gone when I create my 3rd thread! Fair enough. Hopefully the threads remain so that people can learn from my misfortune with Nissan's junk. You have to understand just bc you're having all these issues (and you should look into lemon laws if you're so fed up? I have, car has to bed own for 120 days during the first year, or something totally absurd.) with your Z, maybe it's your Z that wasn't so lucky out of the factory. There are hundreds and thousands of satisfied owners here. That's good for them. Some rarely ever made a trip to dealer in 40-50-60,000 miles. If you're constantly bashing a car coming to that car specific forum, you will not gain popularity among member or admin. Nor do I expect any favors, but thank-you for being polite and candid. Nothing against you, personally, of course. If 370Z is giving you so much issues, perhaps you should trade it in. I'd like to, but taking a $25,000 hit after 1 year of ownership sucks balls. I should have looked at residual, that's my fault for buying what seems like a 3rd world product. But you're pushing my patience to the edge and you're randomly picking argument and telling 370Z enthusiasts on a 370Z forum that their 370Z sucks. Just because I am a nice guy (admin), please don't take advantage of me. Think for a second where you are and have a little respect for other 370Z enthusiasts here. I'll appreciate if you stop your constant 370Z bashing here on THE370z

Thank you.

A. Kaiser
I just read your last part. You probably better just drop the ban hammer, because your pet passion (the 370Z) has cost me hundreds of dollars to maintain, even under warranty, is still having random issues, and has the trade-in value of a Daewoo. I respect your polite appeal to cease and desist, and I ask that you respect the fact that you being a good guy (which you come across as, and thanks for your candor), is not enough to fix thousands of dollars and countless times of being without a ride, or in some shitty electric car that I am scared will leave me stranded and with a $250 tow-bill (what they told me it would cost), or any other number of minor annoyances. Respectfully, I WISH we could trade places, and the only 370Z issue I had was related to some guy spreading an uncomfortable truth on a forum I moderated for fun. The difference, here, between actuality and being a troll, is that I actually drive the car I am talking bad about. I have the right to say what I want, as long as it's true. Now, this forum is private, and you have the right to censor it, of course, but I'm not going to feel bad about sharing my situation, or expressing displeasure. If I were lying, that would be one thing, but I'm just sharing and I'm not happy about it.

So put yourself in my place.

You've been polite, you've raised your voice, you've finally had to make a scene in the dealership to get your **** even somewhat fixed.

You've been lied to by the service manager. It's cost you hundreds of dollars.

Nissan North America has told you that whining power steering is normal, and has only reimbursed you for some of your maintenance costs.

I've appealed to everyone. Dealership. Nissan NA. Before that, politely the forum asking advise.

Now I'm trying to trade it in, and it's worth so much less than any domestic car of similar MSRP in similar condition.

So what do you do? Do you just hang your head? Do you mess some lives up?

Well, I'm not going to mess anyone's life up over a car, and I'm also not going to just shuffle off quietly. I'm going to share the factual recount of my experiences as a cautionary tale to others every chance I get.

If you don't like it, I'm sorry 'bout that. Nothing personal, and business is business, so feel free to do what you do, because I won't take that any more personal than you should take this.

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