Originally Posted by 1slow370

that's if they will give you the deposit back when you get the order transferred. Companies charging for preorder fees, non refundable deposits, restocking fees, it's all the same it's a don't change your mind fee whatever you call it. And i totally disagree DE about companies not charging r&d costs under deposits, I work in manufacturing, and NEVER have i outsourced something to any shop and not gotten charged a setup, programming, or tooling fee. Often the setup fees can cost more than the entire batch of parts. We used to deal with cast aluminum housings for paper core shafts and each of the 9000 11lb housings were $15, but the setup fee was $1.5mil. I wonder what gtm had to pay in mold fees considering they are casting 6 different parts for the manifolds and turbo outlets. Especially considering they only have like 10 people that have still paid. Fraud omg the amount you guys have paid them probably doesn't come close to what they have paid for the parts just to get setup.