Originally Posted by Jordo!

No, no -- I agree with you completely.

I'm also not a big fan of "wild west" based theories of achieving peace.

I only meant to suggest that guns aren't like other tools or appliances -- not trying to give you a hard time or anything -- and I think we are very much on the same page here -- I just think its important to explicitly not think of guns as approximately equivalent to hammers, knives, cars, toasters, etc.

I'd also like to think the relevant ship hasn't sailed, although, to be sure, there's nothing waiting at the dock at the moment.