if you wanted a stock look, go with an ark dts. if you opt for the non treated tips you cannot tell the difference from stock, as it hides higher up than the STOCK catback does. and the tips are in the same place, even fully extended. I agree though, tips that stick out past the bumper look ******* retarded. its like the rims lip that stick out past the sidewalls on your tires like an inch (on purpose). or "and this is my favorite to LOL at" super camber.
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