Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

Sorry not to be a douche but pioneer is still junk from what I have seen. You may all have good luck with them but something will brake sooner or later. That is why I never will go with them again to many units with problems. CNET might rate them good but when you actually use them and see what brakes you get a different view about them. But if you have good luck with them that that is good. But when you use them for 5 years each year a different problem and a different unit... na I will stick with alpine and kenwood.