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Jordo! · 08-24-2013, 01:19 PM

I have actually protested random searches citing my 4th amendment rights... but... what's sad is that the Supreme Court generally upholds warrantless searchers given (a) probable cause, which can literally be something the cop kind of makes up, and (b) cars are considered public space, thus no warrants even really needed to at least do a brief search.

It's the old "if ya got nothing to hide, why protest the search" argument... which ignores the deeper question of whether or not such attitudes should be acceptable in an allegedly free society.

Could be worse. There could be a massive warrantless monitoring and scooping up of telecommunication info...

Oh.. wait...

Anyway, there's never any point in being anything other than polite and (reasonably) cooperative. Wrong time and place to be a wiseguy... rarely helps.

08-24-2013, 01:19 PM	#20 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	I have actually protested random searches citing my 4th amendment rights... but... what's sad is that the Supreme Court generally upholds warrantless searchers given (a) probable cause, which can literally be something the cop kind of makes up, and (b) cars are considered public space, thus no warrants even really needed to at least do a brief search. It's the old "if ya got nothing to hide, why protest the search" argument... which ignores the deeper question of whether or not such attitudes should be acceptable in an allegedly free society. Could be worse. There could be a massive warrantless monitoring and scooping up of telecommunication info... Oh.. wait... Anyway, there's never any point in being anything other than polite and (reasonably) cooperative. Wrong time and place to be a wiseguy... rarely helps. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it. Last edited by Jordo!; 08-24-2013 at 01:26 PM.