msbc- btw, the griot's yellow mud has its own problems. it's so soft it takes some getting use to to make the clay glide smoothly at first. if it catches the paint during the glide, it leaves behind a thin film of clay...which takes takes a few more strokes to clay it off. weird, huh?
im use to it now so i dont have this problem these days.
i use SpeedShine when i use the griot's mud (along with disposable gloves as the yellow dye gets on your hand), but for all other clays i use the meguiar's marooon bottle cheap QD.