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Originally Posted by XwChriswX
Hold on there, I'm a veteran myself, (AF). I know full well what I've sworn, fought, and bled for.
I believe this country has lost sight of its values and rights too. But when an officer pulls you over, you Were in the wrong. Like it or not.
I know my history and my constitution, but at a routine traffic stop isn't the place to fight it. Yes, I understand laziness takes over and if you won't there, then where will you? But still... Fighting at a ticket only makes it worse for You. You resist, and then they use some other loophole to get you. Your resisting them to search the vehicle gives them suspicion there is a reason Why other than you just don't want a ticket. And with the systems they have nowadays, it can only take 15 minutes for them to get a search warrant signed by a judge. Then they search your car anyway...
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Thanks for your service. I believe we are in an uphill fight for our national identity.
I respectfully disagree.
In order to get a search warrant, an officer must, prepare an affidavit , setting forth all the evidence and knowledge they have of premises and the offense/violation of the law known (or suspected) to be occurring there. Present the affidavit to a judge or magistrate, swearing to the truthfulness of the information contained in it. The judge will peruse it to be certain that it contains all the requirements of the law, and then signs it. Upon the judge's signature, the affidavit becomes a warrant and may be served.
Most Cops are just working to serve up as many fund raising tickets as possible as quickly as possible.
If I am pulled over because their speed gun was wonky, that is not reasonable cause for a search, and they have no reason to legally search a vehicle. Also they do not have your speed (if you were speeding) therefore the cop has nothing and will have nothing if you:
1. decline to self incriminate (5th amendment)
2. do not give your permission for any unlawful search of your property.(4th)
3. Do not just piss away the rights and freedoms our founding fathers worked to guarantee you.
sincerely, I am not picking a fight, I'm just tired of we the people giving away our freedom due to our apathetic fear and ignorance.
Do what you want, for me, I choose liberty, freedom from oppression, and the ending of Fascist attitudes wherever they may occur. My apologies to any LEOs who take exception to me calling them tools of an increasingly unlawful and oppressive state. Most LEOs I talk to agree.
here are some great answers to the question "Do you know why I pulled you over?"
1. Yes. Because Colorado is in the middle of a budget crisis and you are a glorified tax collector.
2. Perhaps its because you find my car sexy and wanted a better look?
3. Because you are out of doughnuts and hope I will bribe you with some of my lunch to let me go.
Anyhow. I have 4 speed traps between my house and work. I see law abiding good people being pulled over and harassed all day every day. It makes me sick.
Radar, LADAR, speed cameras, aircraft, soon drones... Perhaps if they spent some of that money on non traffic patrols, actual crimes might be prevented.
Sincerely, I know you served in the AF and are therefore a fan of freedom, and the American way. I am just pointing out that what that dream is means something different to us than it did to our grandparents. they had backbone and would probably object to public officials overstepping their office.