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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch
Did you watch the video?
"The truth is, the Civic has way stickier tires, and if all things were equal the BRZ would be 2 or 3 seconds faster."
And before you say "but they are the tires it comes with!" -- well, not quite. The thing about the HFP package is that it comes with the wheels, the tire choice is entirely up to you and costs extra. Likewise, it isn't a cheap "package" either.
2013 Honda Civic Si Coupe HFP - Official Honda Website
Read the fine print:
Replacement tires required. Yokohama AVID W4S Ultra High Performance All-Season tires (215/40R18) are recommended but not included in the HFP package. |
How much is this Civic? (Can't currently watch the vid). My guess is well over $30k like that Mugen edition they used to make. That is a bit more than a BRZ Premium. I have read repeatedly that the stock wheel/tire combo is the weakest link in the car. Edmunds actually replaced the set on their test car with a set of TE37s and stickier rubber and it performed a ton better on their road test.
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Also -- on Subaru's AWD system. It's actually a very basic system, way less advanced than most of 'em out there. But that's also why it is so good -- simplicity is good sometimes.
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What's out there for $25k that's equal or better?