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Originally Posted by Eighties Meta
a good exhaust note = Priceless
The hiss of your HFC when next to someone and you let off the gas at highway speed= Priceless awesomeness
watching other drivers in crappy cars try to impress you because they see you are modded=More pricessless +1 if they almost wreck doing it
sorry, but 30-40whp is something you can definately feel.
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I really agree and I don't understand this $5000 estimate too...
(Oh, and I'm not going to argue what $5000 buys you if you have an STi or Evo, or even a domestic car)
(Oil cooler is a necessity, or if you have a '12+, maybe you don't)
Lets say you get a FI exhaust (12" and shipping to the Midwest), FI HFCs (+shipping), and a Stillen G3 intake (assume $30 shipping) and lets say you NEED a tune...
AND
Let's assume you SUCK at finding a good deal, and youre buying eveything at MSRP... $1340+$530+$555+$700=$3125...
That's not $5000... It's almost $2000 away from $5000 actually... Even if you buy a Motordyne or a DEpointfive0 custom manifold for $525 or $450 respectively...
You're still at $3575... Still a bit more that $1400 away from $5000...
$3575 for a $35000+ car is 10%~, you gain a CONSERVATIVE 10% gain, probably much more (assume 280WHP to 310)
Mathematically your mods are worth it. (Side fact $119.17/WHP added)
Side fact 2: (I made 321WHP, and no tune... So assuming I had 280HP and ended with 321WHP without my own manifold I had a 14.64% gain... $57.74/WHP added... And I got my parts for a crapload cheaper, I did that with $160 Megan resonated TPs, LOL)
Yeah, a TT kit will probably net you a BIT more bang for the buck...
If you have the buck to begin with
(Breaking it down, a bog standard GTM TT tuner kit is $6800, $2091 for the 3" GTM exhaust, a 34 row oil cooler (with thermostatic plate, assume $30 shipping) $628, CSF radiator (assume $30 shipping) $628, a tune $900 (assume $200 more because it will probably take longer to tune), and god help you if you are auto and want your car to last, and god help you if you don't want to burn the clutch too easily, god help you if you're paying someone else to install it, and you've not got to worry about 50 other things... That brings your total to...
$11047, and that's if you install it yourself, and you don't upgrade anything else, and your car runs fine without anything breaking, and without shipping for the GTM kit...
Assuming you go from 280WHP to 470WHP (using the Forced Induction thread), you have a gain of 190WHP... You're at $58.14/WHP added.
Yes IT IS a better return... But you do sacrifice other things, and that isn't with any other mods you would normally choose/should do...
Again... Tell your friend to run off a cliff because god forbid he drives...