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Originally Posted by forza370z
Yeah you have all the cars that I want to own! From Sti to 911!  Lol... Why you don't like the Evo's dual clutch. I haven't drove one. My buddy told me there is some strange delay when shifting. But it's a very fast car. |
Haha thanks man! The DCT on the Evo would slip (I think that was the problem) very often in first/second gear and it felt like you seriously hit a tree or something. Very, very violent and abrupt. 2nd to 1st gear shifts were also terrible. The mechanical stress and tolerances that DCT can handle is SO low, it can't even handle its stock power let alone modding it at all. Mitsubishi wasn't doing anything about it so I wanted it gone before anything serious came up.
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Originally Posted by Tazicon
Take you car out to Colorado for a cruise. I go there a few times a year in my z. Yes it takes a big hit on power but is still a blast to drive in the mountains there. I would lean towards the STi just because of the AWD. While I lived in Broomfield I parked my Jag during the winter and drove one of my Jeeps. That magchloride they put on the roads there kills cars. Yes even if you wash them right away. It seems like you consider the STi a bit of a beater so it should work out as an all year round vehicle.
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I do need to go for a drive, that's for sure. Damn I hate chemicals on the roads. I did put a skid plate on the STi awhile back, and can always spray protective stuff over the suspension.
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Originally Posted by jgibbons
I live in colorado.
Driving your Z in the snow is not for the faint of heart.
i haven't modified the stance at all and i still end up scraping as a lot of the roads around here are really poorly joined together with all the hills.
i love my z though. would not mind something AWD for the winter though.
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Damn I did not know about all the crappy roads..
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Originally Posted by supunna_picta
The power loss experienced in Denver is irrelevant compared to the practicality of an AWD car for winter. I would not be a fan of having to drive my z year round. I am lucky enough to have a WRX and a Z but if I could only choose one it would be the WRX because of the amount of snow travel I do. If you have an alternate transport for snowy days be it the train, a bus, skis or telecommuting then the Z would be fine but if you like traveling in winter then you need a better snow car than the z. Even a cheap Fwd with excellent snow tires would work.
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I do enjoy snowboarding a lot, but I agree I should be more worried about AWD vs RWD with the snow, although I would not mind a dedicated snow tire setup on the Z.
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Originally Posted by jgibbons
I have Nokian Hakkapeliitta 5's studded on the rear and blizzak lm25's on the front. I can get through most snow storms, I haven't been stuck yet. clearance is the biggest concern. even coming out of gas stations you'll scrape, or turning onto certain roads.
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed
STI still won't fix the fact that you'll lose your front bumper to the melt-off dip in every driveway here.
The power loss is noticeable, but not the end of the world. The AWD in the Subaru is nice, but the challenge in Denver is generally ground clearance. Main roads get cleared pretty quickly, and everything sublimates so you don't get as much ice. The times where the roads aren't clear, the STI won't get you much farther than the Z.
The Subaru also has terrible paint, which caused me to fear driving it in the winter. The fact that they don't salt the roads in Denver is helpful for wear, but I'd still recommend a beater.
On the whole, the wrx/sti is a great car, but I'd not recommend it unless it is a car you want due to its standalone virtues.
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Holy damn I'm imagining these roads to be the equivalent of off roading!
The STi does have better clearance than the Z, plus my Z has the Stillen splitter which I would hate to take off, looks naked without it.