Originally Posted by Phimosis

I usually stay out of this thread because I have a CARB legal Stillen kit that I've been driving around trouble free for a couple of years and I know the GTM fans will be eager to bash me, but really, call it like it is. You're based in California. Your primary market is in California, yet you claim that only a few people want the CARB kit. Then you flip-flop and say your working hard on CARB approval. Then you flip-flop again and say that it's not your fault and that the state bureaucracy is to blame. Then you flip flop some more and say that only people in California need the CARB certification. Then you flip flop again saying that final testing is days away. And when I say "you" I mean all of the official statements made by all employees of GTM on this forum.

The truth is that Stillen had to go through the same hoops and got their approval a year and a half ago, when government employees were actually being furloughed. The truth is also that you need CARB approval in Washington too. Well, unless you want to do it shady style and find a shop that will break the law. You can find shops like that in California as well. Here's how the Washington law reads, according to the DMV website:


What is the Clean Car Law?
The Clean Car Law (RCW 46.16A.060) requires vehicles across Washington State to be certified to California emission standards. Starting with 2009 models, vehicles must meet these strict clean air standards to be registered, leased, rented, licensed, or sold for use anywhere in Washington.

Did you really not know that, or was that deliberate deceit? The answer was just a few key steokes away on Google. You say you're from Washington like you are an authority on their emissions laws, but you were completely incorrect.

Over the life of this thread I haven't seen any accountability or honesty on your part. Yes, Stillen overrated their horsepower rating between their press release
And their final CARB approved tune, bit they got it done, they didn't make any excuses and they didn't bash any forum members or edit their posts after taking heat for negative or inflammatory things they said. I personally laid heavy criticism on Stillen in their threads for falling short of what they advertised. But again, they didn't make excuses and they got it done.... 18 months ago.