Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

I'm ok with long pedal travel, never owned a manual Z, Mini Cooper John S Works whateverthehell, that pedal travel was decently long too, and I have put a few thousand miles on a Scion xB MT

With the Scion the clutch engagement point is VERY obvious because the pedal feel isn't linear at all, it's very 2 stage.

The Mini has a stiff clutch pedal (compared to the xB and the Z) and the engagement point is also quite high, but you can feel when it's engaging, it pushes your foot off the clutch that last inch

The Z, the several time I drove it... Felt awkward, and I KNOW I'm not the only one, so I don't know why you're pointing me out specifically... But the travel feels so linear that it just has no real feel to me... (Hence the reason why so many people opt for the different clutch helper spring and whatnot)
I guess you could say the learning curve is high on it compared to any other car I have driven. At the same time I guess it's more raw, (unlike the Audi R8 M/T which feels unstallable)