Originally Posted by Mergnthwirker

I think Consumer Reports reporting is representative of the experience of the reader base of the magazine, which is heavily skewed to old farts. When an old fart buys a Z, he or she is going to report things like thin paint and rear hatch latches as "problem areas." Does this mean the cars are unreliable? Not as we define it, but probably as an old fart does. It's just something else to deal with, and the old fart would rather just drive the thing back & forth to WalMart and not have to deal with checking the oil level, looking at tire wear, or keeping up with maintenance schedules. Lexus is the heart of the drive-it-and-forget-it school, the ideal CR vehicle. By that standard, the Z sucks (at least to old farts).

Originally Posted by Magic Bus

As an old fart.....you are so wrong