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Originally Posted by Shamu
Lol that's big heavy z33 (350z) and no where close to car I posted. I will give old 350 z race cars one thing they were lighter than new 370z! Please please post a 370z that is more capable on a road course than that beautiful lightweight Mazda 3. Man that 3 is just pure sex on wheels!
Listen to that motor! Sweet Jebus! This isn't apples verses oranges its a sweet juicy orange compared to a big sour grapefruit.
YouTube - Mazda 3 Sedan 20b race 4 2012 at Spa-Francorchamps |
You won't find one because the Z doesn't compete in that class. Sure some modded ones will come close, but you can say that about any model modded car. Go see the Z's big brother GT-R if that Mazda3 wants to pick a fight. That Mazda is a kick-*** car and would make more sense to actually compare it to the other cars it will be racing.
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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370
Its funny how some guys think.
The mazda 3 has been around for a whole decade in 6 months.
The Z34 will be around 4 years in 4 months.
In 2003, a base mazda was 14k, a used one today is 4k
A 2012 starts around 16.5k
You can get a loaded 2010 mazda 3 S for 19k.
Mods for this car have been researched the whole time cuz until sky activ, this engine has been relatively the same for a decade.
The 2009 Z started at $30k
The 2013 Z starts @ $34k
The average '09 Z used today is 25k.
Investment factor from jump between both cars is about $11k. $9k will buy you a 2007 mazda 3 and 10k more 20b with install right off the bat. Combine the 07 mazda and 20b cost now and you may be able to buy a low mileage 2007/08 Z33 with no mods.. Give the Z34 time for the resale cars to be under $20k and you will see more advanced aftermarket and RC Z's. Truth is... very few people with a unlimited budget are buying Z's for aftermarket tuning.
$30k on a Z in mods only gives you the turbo and efficiency mods needed. It doesn't even give you the car... lol. The Z34 being track legendary will take some time considering there's fairly new tech in the Z34 to crack.
Too many people are confusing the amount of people making a monetary investment in the Z vs the Z having a lack of performance.
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I have no idea what your point is. We're not comparing a modded showroom Mazda 3 vs a modded 370. The original post is about a race spec GT with probably over $100k worth of work. The differences between the street version Mazda3 and the Racecar is night and day. That 20B rotory is a racing motor and cost a lot more than you'd think. Depending on how much work was put into it, a race motor like the one in that car could cost over $30k. Getting the rest of the car sorted out...suspension, rigidity, safety, drivetrain, etc. etc. is a monsterous amount of work and R&D. Price isn't an issue at this level. You buy what you need to win. That racecar only shares the Mazda 3 name in spirit.
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