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Originally Posted by Joepro
Well I guess time will tell, I like the design and the black looks great, this would be a no brainer, but I just do not see even 50% of Z modders waiting till a tune is going to happen before buying intakes or buying a cobb or cipher cable, maybe I am wrong, and for these guys I hope I am, I think this appears a quality product and I would buy it, but I can get the stillens and have proven gains with no tuning or map updates, or the new long tube taketas...not trying to be a downer, but I have a different business philosphy is all, I like the innovation and design!  |
I don't think COBB is even making tuners anymore for 10+ Z's, I think they only did for 09, and have stopped. If you have one, I think it would work, but they haven't still made them. (Was the last info I had on COBBs)
Any Z modder looking to go for max performance will ultimately (if they're doing it right) get a tune at some point. So really, it's not that out of line with what the Average modder does. Sure, some don't get tunes, sure some get tunes and don't need them... It's all about what the modder is looking for and their intelligence base.
The beauty of this one is the fact that Akuma has already done the work of what your tuner would need to do making the tables, and are Giving them to you free, instead of adding an additional cost, (
to Akuma for that!) And you don't need a FULL tune to get this table installed. A simple flash will allow you to update these. Those generally go for $300~. So you don't have to spend all day on a dyno.
Granted, with Stillens, you don't need this... But with Stillens, you're looking at paying almost 2x as much vs the Akuma's... Not including Installation.
Lastly, the Takeda's have had several issues with delivery, and no definite dynos to prove the gains. With pricing still above the Akumas, and only one filter which potentially might help/hinder gains...
I'm not trying to be a fanboy (and I don't even think I could qualify since I don't have a set yet
) I'm just trying to give fair/balanced debate.