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Old 08-13-2012, 04:47 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by SnakeBitten View Post
I see. Well now we have a conspiracy at Wards lol....I personally would have dropped the Chrysler Hemi 5.7 V8 off the list since it only makes 8 hp more than the VQ37 which is a V6. That Hemi is a sweet engine so not knocking it at all. It deserves a spot on the list but not to the exclusion of the VQ37. Wards got some splaining to do.

I definately feel like these votings are 50% politically motivated from a business standpoint. Japanese sports cars have always gotten the short end of the stick. The only reason why the VQ35 lasted so long on wards 10 best list is because, since 1998, no one was able to make an affordable v8 with more than 300hp and from 2003, no more than 350hp. Now here comes nissan with half the displacment, a third less weight and. Can pretty much hang with the overglorified mustang. By 2003. There were only 4 affordable sports cars to buy. Mazda's RX8 and miata. The Z and the mustang. Wards had no choice but to give the Z its respect. Tied for first place with a 6 vs the first place 8 cyl mustang.
2004 came the GTO. Perfect handling. The new fastest car on the block, but looked like a bloated accord. It lasted 3 years.
2005, mustang comes back with a new body, suspension and revised 4.6 motor. The Z gets fatter. For the first time the Z is losing a little to the mustang. 2006, a refresh and small jump in power take the Z at least getting closer to the stang. 2007 the vqhr retied the Z to the stang. 2009. The 370 burns stangs and old GTO.
What's the difference now. Camaro is coming out. (Domestic) mustang is planning a recovery refresh. (Domestic) Challenger is coming out (Domestic) Malibu and other american cars are making there entry to be more competitive in the international car market. How do we raise attention to our brands here in america and show we are competitive against foreign brands???
Hmmmm we oversell our domestics while nitpicking imports... lol.

EXAMPLE. http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...mparison-tests I have to use hyundai as prime example number one.
Camaro v6 vs genesis coupe 3.8. Car and driver admitted the gencoupe beat the camaro in acceleration, handling,ergonomics feedback, steering feel. Legroom headroom, power delivery trunk space and convenience... Car & Driver said the camaro won for coolness and gotta have it factor. I driven the camaro v6. It doesn't hold a candle to a gencoupe or a Z in performance. But this car gets kudo's.

With all the bailouts Bush advocated for and Obama agreed to uphold through transition. America needed to show the american cars are worth buying. How better than to make it look so by knocking the best affordable sports car on the market and giving praise to the bloated three. Nissan has always taken the blow when the domestic market needs a morale boost.

Honest buyers know what's up. We test drive and search for the truth. We don't allow Toby Keith style car magazine articles sort out the truth for us. We find it for ourselves. The Z is the best affordable sports car in overall pound for ppound performance and quality. (Minus the worst in-house stereo systems in the Z.)

Not a fanboy statement. Its the truth. Today cars like the 135 and EVO give a Z a run for its money. But at a starting price point of about 32k give or take a grand depending on year and deals made. The Z offers more on the entry level in spite of the lack of sport pkg at that price. And only 3k took you there. Today. The 2013 isn't the value it was. And maybe best bang for buck died in 2011 when the stang gave a 4.4 second gt option with .96g track grip and gobs more torque. But the Z HOLDS AN INDIVIDUALISM in the car market the muscle three can't dream of having. Not even the G37 copy gencoupe can claim individualism in the price range. The Z is better than most will admit. People who aren't slaves to the staus quo or the power of suggestion can decide for themselves with all honesty and resist statements based on popular influence. A rare jewel of character in americas car market.

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