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Old 07-21-2012, 11:45 AM   #82 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed View Post
I'm sorry the C&D guys don't agree with you. It seems to have upset you a bit. I guess you can't win them all.
The Car & Driver guys can't even agree with themselves, so it doesn't really upset me too much one way or the other what they say at this point about anything. I mean, the first line of my post was ripping on them for awarding the "best handling car" to the car with the most electronic driver assist nannies, and my post was full of laughing emoticons, such as and in case you failed to notice that.

Maybe you should take a step back from that "Another Z fanboy bashing the Mustang" podium ask yourself why I'm upset that the Mustang doesn't seem to me to handle as well as the magazines say it does in practice, on the street.

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Turns out, my car still handles fantastically regardless what some dude on the internet thinks.
As does mine.


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And more importantly, since you are apparently out driving your Z, I refuse to continue this discussion in the interest of safety.
No, no... I lied. I won't be doing that until later. But it's nice of you to...



Wait a minute...


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I'm honestly curious whether you can articulate what you feel?
I thought you were'n't going to continue this discussion! Well I guess we both lied.

No, I don't think I really can articulate what it is. It just "feels like" a SRA to me. I suppose it's the connection between the left & right wheels when hitting a bump with one wheel and not the other that is apparent, but I supposed you'll just say something about banana wine or dampers or snapping axles so does it matter? I felt it. Even if it was imaginary... Which I don't believe it was for a second... Does it matter to me? Not in the slightest. I buy and pay for a car to enjoy driving it, if I don't, then, why have it, for whatever reason?

The SRA wasn't the only thing I didn't like about the Mustang, anyway. Sure, a few thousand dollars worth of suspension mods could have taken care of some of it, maybe even most of it, and I probably could have lived with the rest of it, but I realized that I liked the Z just as it was, better than the Mustang as it was, and I'd rather buy a car and leave it "as it was."

In the end it doesn't matter what you think or what Car & Driver thinks, the guy asked for opinions and I gave mine. I've driven the Z and the Mustang pretty extensively on the roads I drive on every day, and I'm a much better judge of what I enjoy driving and what "handles better" to me on those roads. You can disagree all you want but there's really no point in changing my mind that the Mustang is just far less enjoyable to drive in stock form than the 370Z.

If you want to talk about track performance, take a look at the Z's numbers without the straightaways vs. the Mustang GT in that test. I can't find the PDF anymore, but I recall they were pretty much tied... So I think it really comes down to if more straight-line acceleration is more important to you and/or which car you think is more fun to drive.

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