Originally Posted by Bucketlist2012

But if he sees the loser, then follows the loser, then gets out of his car and then confronts the loser, who then is now the aggressor ?

Our Z car buddy...

If the loser confronts him, I agree with you.

But you cannot use a gun against a can of tea...

And I am no lawyer, and yes, I live in California, where things are all screwed up, and the criminals have the rights...