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Old 06-08-2012, 01:29 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Hi Everyone. This is Alex from Dent Sport. We just got an angry call from Uprev who apparently is under the impression that we are trying to dissuade customers from using their product. The opposite is true. We want to sell tunes. We like tuning Nissans and we like Uprev's product. We were wondering why the cars were being flagged also so we did an experiment.

Uprev is apparently feeling very upset by this and likely threatened as they called us liars directly and threatened to de-list us from their site. This suggests to us that they are more interested in protecting their reputation than working with knowledgeable engineers and shops to figure out what's not working with their product. We also recognize now that there is something that MA can notice with an UPRev flashed Nissan that can cause it to be sent to MAC. This is not isolated to Nissans. Do a search for Evo tuning and MAC in MA. It's the same thing. It was un announced. It happens to Diesel trucks, SCT tuned cars and others.

We have flashed a car with a license only, no parts changes, no check engine lights and no tune and it failed inspection and got sent to MAC.

We have a duty to tell customers that they are about to head in a direction that may cause problems for them in the future. That's why we've been in business longer than UpRev. We're honest and we call it as we see it. We're also all residents of MA and we all know how the system works here. This is not a change in a law. It's a change in inspection protocol.

UPrev's suggestion to us was to flash the car back to stock for inspection. We would like to know how a turbo car is going to pass inspection with a stock tune. We'd like to know how it will even drive to an inspection that way. Uprev doesn't seem to understand that every readiness code must be set in MA for a car to pass. This means that the car will run a check on every code and obviously with no cat, or with big injectors or other parts the CEL will come on. The answer then would be to turn the car back to stock at a tremendous cost to the customer and then flash the car back to stock. (and who pays for this? the customer.) So they should know.. and now you do.

Uprev would be better off spending time figuring out it's product and how inspection works than calling dealers and telling us we're liars and that we don't understand how inspection works in our home state. Uprev went so far as to say that we are not their customer. They claim we are an intermediary between them and their end user. The phone call was outrageous.

All readyness codes must be set
All hardware that is listed by the manufacturer on the car must be listed as available.

This seems to be something that they don't understand.
Hey Alex,( Mike) Thanx for the write up. All I can say is when was this changed in protocal? When did you guys try it with you car? I know when I went to get my sticker in Fed, This year I had no issue at all, Stillen SC kit and Stillens UPREV tune. Or is this more for cars that have had sensors tunred off? Like running TP's. Also I'm sure this is something Stillen looked at for their50 State CARB license . I had heard of this before over on EVOM( still member) But it was all guys running big turbos and or no cats, EGR's and what not and had some of the readiness codes shut off to keep from thoughing CEL's. I just find it hard to believe that your car failed, ( STOCK) and I passed with a SC kit and Tune.
IF what you say is true and this changed after I got my sticker, Then all of us that went FI and F'd. I probaly can not even start my car on the stock tune with out blowing in up.

Just to add I think this is the key to your post, "Uprev doesn't seem to understand that every readiness code must be set in MA for a car to pass:, But we would we have any readiness code shut off unless we where running something we where not supposed to, Like HFC or NO Cat, Venting to the atmosphere . maybe some one else can chime in?
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