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vo2max99 · 06-01-2012, 01:48 AM

Motor Trend track tested:

Scion FR-S
Subaru BRZ
Ford Mustang
Hyundai Gen Coupe
Mazda MX-5 Miata
VW GTI

Summary:

1st place: Subaru BRZ - Offers Miata levels of driving enjoyment, with the practically and livability of a car with a roof, four seats, and truck. So it wins because they deemed it the best overall package in addition to being almost as fun as the MX-5.

2nd place: Scion FR-S - Basically the same as the BRZ but not quite the bargain considering interior /features.. Oh and it's a little more prone to oversteer /less controllable .

3rd place: Mazda MX-5 Miata- The most fun to drive car of the group. Pro driver "Randy Pobst" stated: "There's a reason 80 MX-5 Miatas are on the Pre-Grid at Road America, and it's the same reason this is the only car in which I did an extra lab simply 'cause I didn't wanna stop".

4th place: Ford Mustang - Pobst sums up the Mustang this way: "In terms of this group of cars, the Mustang is fast and numb"." Against the likes of BRZ, FR-S and Miata, it feels less engaging and, ultimately fat".

5th place: VW GTI - Drivers who require that a car have more than a tinge of practically need look no farther. But when performance is paramount, they'd be well advised to keep looking.

6th place: Hyundai Gen Coupe 2.0T R-Spec - Randy Pobst "Good mid-range torque, but feels distant and rubberized, detracting from on-track gratification". They complained about the crappy 6MT, steering feel / feedback and a few other things as well. It put down pretty good #'s though if that matters.

These cars are all 30K and under but I don't think there's a new car up to 40K that would knock off the top 3 here besides maybe the EVO and it would be close in terms of being a superior driver's car.

As far as straight line acceleration the BRZ / FR-S / MX-5 posted nearly identical 0-60 and 1/4 mile times: MX-5- 6.3 / 14.9; BRZ- 6.4 / 14.9 / FR-S-6.2 / 14.8.

The Mustang was the fastest car of the group posting: 5.3 / 13.9 followed by the Gen Coupe's 5.7 / 14.2 and GTI's (6-speed twin-cl auto) 6.1 / 14.7

Just another great example showing how test track #'s don't even begin to scratch the surface when evaluating the value of a sports car.

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06-01-2012, 01:48 AM	#1116 (permalink)
vo2max99 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 120 Drives: 08MS3-BM-6MT Rep Power: 13	Motor Trend track tested: Scion FR-S Subaru BRZ Ford Mustang Hyundai Gen Coupe Mazda MX-5 Miata VW GTI Summary: 1st place: Subaru BRZ - Offers Miata levels of driving enjoyment, with the practically and livability of a car with a roof, four seats, and truck. So it wins because they deemed it the best overall package in addition to being almost as fun as the MX-5. 2nd place: Scion FR-S - Basically the same as the BRZ but not quite the bargain considering interior /features.. Oh and it's a little more prone to oversteer /less controllable . 3rd place: Mazda MX-5 Miata- The most fun to drive car of the group. Pro driver "Randy Pobst" stated: "There's a reason 80 MX-5 Miatas are on the Pre-Grid at Road America, and it's the same reason this is the only car in which I did an extra lab simply 'cause I didn't wanna stop". 4th place: Ford Mustang - Pobst sums up the Mustang this way: "In terms of this group of cars, the Mustang is fast and numb"." Against the likes of BRZ, FR-S and Miata, it feels less engaging and, ultimately fat". 5th place: VW GTI - Drivers who require that a car have more than a tinge of practically need look no farther. But when performance is paramount, they'd be well advised to keep looking. 6th place: Hyundai Gen Coupe 2.0T R-Spec - Randy Pobst "Good mid-range torque, but feels distant and rubberized, detracting from on-track gratification". They complained about the crappy 6MT, steering feel / feedback and a few other things as well. It put down pretty good #'s though if that matters. These cars are all 30K and under but I don't think there's a new car up to 40K that would knock off the top 3 here besides maybe the EVO and it would be close in terms of being a superior driver's car. As far as straight line acceleration the BRZ / FR-S / MX-5 posted nearly identical 0-60 and 1/4 mile times: MX-5- 6.3 / 14.9; BRZ- 6.4 / 14.9 / FR-S-6.2 / 14.8. The Mustang was the fastest car of the group posting: 5.3 / 13.9 followed by the Gen Coupe's 5.7 / 14.2 and GTI's (6-speed twin-cl auto) 6.1 / 14.7 Just another great example showing how test track #'s don't even begin to scratch the surface when evaluating the value of a sports car. --- I am here: http://tapatalk.com/map.php?wqnxoo Last edited by vo2max99; 06-01-2012 at 02:01 AM.