All I'm saying is that the numbers quoted isn't absolutely outrageous. With guys here making 50-60 hp from bolt ons and drive train mods, these engines are making good power without getting into internals. Do I think it will make 400 whp with cams and a VVEL mod? Most likely no. Would I like it to? Hell yeah. In the end it's going to take someone with some stones to test it out. Keep this going, I like agreat debate