I do spirited driving and maintin my tires pretty well and have 23k on both front and rear, However due to nissan sending my car out with + camber all the way around my outside tire is shot on both rears and have a cupping issue in the front. The toyo's i mentioned are good for 50k if you aren't abusing them on a daily basis (as any tire) and handle really well during rainy season. I have averaged 25 with my re050's. Michelin's I have always believed in but they are so damn expensive, one tire dealership quoted them as "damn near bullitproof" lol. To each their own...
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