op-i checked out avantguard's site and the 19x8.5 spokes protrude past the lip for caliper clearance. that means if you take your car to an auto wash the rails could scratch your spokes.
just thought i put that out there since now i dont think i want to use these as my winter set as i may need to take my G to the manned autowash in the winter. this winter was very mild so i was able to wash my car at home, but usually it's 3months of sub freezing temps.
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