Originally Posted by ZMan8

...unfortunately.

However, if we were to see the number of real enthusiasts driving civics/z's, the difference is less. Most people who mod civics do the following:

1. annoying, loud, fart can
2. make car heavier with useless aero parts that have no functionality
3. buy cheap wheels that are heavy
4. dont understand the principle of a performance car

Not to be bias, but I believe Z owners at least know what they are doing for the most part.