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Originally Posted by Zemurray
I've had more than one gm, they have all sucked since about 1973. Just ask my coworker who has just had to have new rings and pistons installed in his well maintained Denali suburban with only 68k miles. This is after he had to put in a new transmission in it 3 months ago.
Put 200k trouble free miles on that vette and then come back and talk to me about it being trouble free. The reason the stats are better on them is due to the fact that old men leave them sitting in the garage and don't ever get up to 50,000 miles.
I've got a Honda pilot in the drive way, 150k miles, uses no oil, drives like new. Only thing ever done to it not maintenance related was a new cat converter.
My FJ cruiser, 101k miles, nothing but oil changes.
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No, the reason the stats on the Corvette are better is because they are built in a separate factory that ONLY builds corvettes, by people that ONLY build corvettes.
As to my engine, it was build by ONE person, who then signed it.
You're friend's suburban has absolutely nothing to do with a corvette aside from branding.
This is like me saying my G20 is a pile of **** so your 370Z is, too, since they are both made by Nissan/Infiniti in Japan. Does that logic track with you? I have replaced a transmission, all the motor/trans mounts, etc. etc. So your 370Z must be a bad car, too. Yeah?
No. It has no relevance what-so-ever.
FWIW, there are plenty of high-mileage corvette's that have needed little/no work. My LS1 engine was a great engine once I put the right oil in it. It went 150K miles and the ONLY thing I replaced on that engine was the oil/filters and the water-pump once. Other than that, it ran like a dream. A few weeks before I sold it, ran a few 2010 SS 6-speed cars. Dead-even. It didn't lose a bit in 150K miles. I can show you dyno-charts from LS1 cars still making over 290whp at the 100K+ mark. GM builds a great engine. So a one of them had a flaw? I think EVERY manufacturer has made a lemon or two. Nissan certainly did with their VQ series early-on with all the replacement engines they installed.
So let me ask you: Have ANY of your GM's been corvettes?
PS. The corvette has a 5/100K warranty. If GM were making junk engines, would they bet $14K (dealer cost + labor) per Z06 that it wouldn't make it for half a decade or 100K miles? I don't know...I also don't care. Replacement is free if it dies. Which I HIGHLY doubt it will.
Spring Mountain has run corvettes for years. They ran the C6's when they first came out until present. While I was there, I asked what the failure points were. They said "wheel bearings until 2008, clutch hydraulics RARELY."
After 2008, they said the clutch hydraulics were about it. They had had around 3 go bad. This is putting 12-14,000 track-miles on the cars in Las Vegas 100*+ weather running them hard with inexperienced people behind the wheel day in and day out.
No engines have been lost. No rear-ends have been lost. No transmissions have been lost, since 2008 (and probably earlier, but I only asked about '08 cars and later). They had no cars older than 2010 when I was there, and those had 9-12K miles on them already.
In my book, that says a lot more about how the drive-line holds up than some guy who knows a guy who owns a Suburban.
Now, so there is no mistake, I am trading my Z06 for a 370Z, so this isn't about GM nut-swinging, it's about the facts.
PS. You live in KY. Go spend the $5 or $8 and get a tour of Bowling Green if it's not too far from you. I spent 16 hours on the factory floor watching them build my Z06, and those people were very enthusiastic not only about my car because I was watching, but about other cars I saw them building as well. They really do care. Sure, they CAN make mistakes, but they are not just grunts who are stomping through the muck hoping to get home. They enjoy what they do, well, a lot of them do, anyway. Go watch them and you will see what I mean.