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Originally Posted by bossman
k RCZ are you kidding me? bud.. you say you don't have the luxury of "being able immediately control what gear your car is in comes to mind". umm, pretty sure that's what the paddles are for. despite your backwards views and "YEA I DRIVE A STICK CUZ IM A REAL MAN WITH A REAL SPORTS CAR" attitude, you're gonna one day have to accept that paddles are a proven technology and they will become the median. Not to mention ferrari pioneered them.. every review having to do with the paddles vs. stick has said the paddles were better... go look at the new M3 & 911 article on car and driver.. go look at the G's performance figures.. all audis including the R8.. and ferraris. the fact of the matter is that you like the manual because that's all you know, you're looking for a reason to express why you're better than someone yet you don't even have the qualifications to know the difference!
PS - go watch the video with the nissan exec talking about the two; he clearly states that unlike most automatics the Z's was specially geared to be more performance oriented and give the driver the same sort of connection you feel with the manual. that's why there's an extra gear, that's why they spent years researching perfect spacing ratios between the gears.. Also, this is the fun fact of the day. What makes me mad is that I don't remember which review but it was on this website.. the tester said that the automatic also feels like it has rev-matching.. he said that there was no "S" button but you could see the car kind of auto-adjust as soon as you let go of the paddle
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This will be fun.
Actually I don't even know where to start. All I had to see is that you think "paddles" is some sort of all inclusive term for transmissions that give you the ability to select gears with paddles.
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k RCZ are you kidding me? bud.. you say you don't have the luxury of "being able immediately control what gear your car is in comes to mind". umm, pretty sure that's what the paddles are for. despite your backwards views and "YEA I DRIVE A STICK CUZ IM A REAL MAN WITH A REAL SPORTS CAR" attitude, you're gonna one day have to accept that paddles are a proven technology and they will become the median.
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Sorry I can't even read that. I will try to decipher it though.
The paddles allow you to up or down, yes. The difference is that the paddles you refer to are attached to a automatic transmission. Other times, such as on the GT-R and the new Porsche PDK, the paddles are attached to something called a dual-clutch transmission. There is a HUGE difference in the quickness of the shifts between a "manual" automatic and a dual clutch transmission. Paddles on an automatic like the Z aren't any better than pushing a steptronic lever back and forth on an X5.
I am all for dual clutch technology, I love the transmissions on the GT-R and the new Porsches and the new M3. All 3 are dual clutch manuals with an automatic clutch pedal. NOT automatic transmissions. The aforementioned paddle transmissions ALL have a clutch which has to be engaged and disengaged. The only difference is that the car is doing it for you instead of you having to press the clutch. Keep in mind that is NOT the same as an automatic transmission which does not use a clutch.
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Not to mention ferrari pioneered them.. every review having to do with the paddles vs. stick has said the paddles were better... go look at the new M3 & 911 article on car and driver.. go look at the G's performance figures.. all audis including the R8.. and ferraris. the fact of the matter is that you like the manual because that's all you know, you're looking for a reason to express why you're better than someone yet you don't even have the qualifications to know the difference!
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Read my above comment on the difference between Dual clutch transmissions and manumatic automatic transmissions. Also on a side note, Ferrari actually doesn't use dual clutch on their F430 Scuderia, they use a very advanced Sequential transmission. Its a different type from both the Dual clutch and the manumatic. Racecars most often use sequential tranmissions.
I don't need to look at anything. I'm not even going to bother with your comment about manuals being all I know or being better than anyone. Also you have NO idea what my qualifications are or aren't. Not gonna go down to that level.