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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang
You were going too fast for the conditions. I can get the back end to step out in my car on snow tires under braking if I am going too fast... 
More rear weight makes the rear of the car want to overtake the front when you attempt to stop quickly... especially if turning. If you have more weight on the front, the car tends to track much straighter... Simple physics.
There's a reason why the older 911s were notorious for ridiculous amounts of oversteer... all that weight over the rear axle. |
The 911 was famous for unintentional throttle lift snap oversteer. As in, the driver enters the corner, the front-end gives some feedback, the driver lifts on the throttle to shift weight forward, and that pendulum of an arse steps out in an instant. I have never driven a 911, but I understand the physics of it and can easily see how that would happen.
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Originally Posted by Pharmacist
i disagree. it also means the rear of the car is prone to losing traction, especially under braking. i used to have a chrysler intrepid, and all the drivetrain (engine, gearbox, diff) was IN FRONT of the front wheels. brake a bit too hard and the back end would get light on its wheels. Occasionally that led to a bit of minor fishtailing under braking. Nothing the ABS didn't fix but it still did happen.
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There is a difference between bad balance for a road course and a horrible abomination of engineering.
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang
If you have the sense to do a full-on Noveske build you probably have enough common sense to handle a high power RWD car safely.  |
Thanks! Even the best of us can make split-second stupid decisions, though. I try not to leave my house thinking "I'm too sensible to screw up". I just don't like painting myself in the "Won't happen to me!" picture.
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed
bad balance is actually great in snow. tons of weight over the front axle means you can turn and stop very easily in poor traction conditions.
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Which is why I keep my G20. It actually is kindof fun in the corners, too, if I respect its limits. No bad tendencies with it. Very predictable. Great in the snow (unless ground-clearance becomes an issue). Last time it snowed here it did just fine.
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang
It doesn't matter... either one would be fine for me. The Z06 only has 500hp when you want it to have 500hp...
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+1, it's slow and predictable in 40mph traffic in my hands. The power is very linear until about 4K rpm or so. Very tractable. I would pick the 370Z in snow/rain, though due to more weight being applied over a smaller area increasing the PSI of the contact patch on the snow, but that's neither here nor there, lol