Thread: 370Z's and E85?
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Old 12-13-2011, 12:42 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Maila87 View Post
E85 or pure bioethanol is presented as fuel with better performance and better efficiency. But it is not true! You have to optimize and increase Compression ratio (some turbo engines with E85 have bigger than 18:0). Turbo is helping to optimize A/F ratio which is needed, because bioethanol is not so efficient as gas. It has 30% less power (mean 30% efficiency) if is combusted in similar way like gas (if you just switch to E85 in your Z).

And why is so presented as more powerful and efficient? It has AKI or RON over 130! So you can optimize combustion process to use bigger compression ration which will increase efficiency and add power. In Norweigen and Sweden are used D95 buses - bioethanol with some additives is used in diesel engines for get even better efficiency and with its really big AKI index it is possible.
Im assuming you were just piggy-backing on what I was saying, but you kinda re-presented info I already stated earlier in this very thread lol. You just used a whole bunch of big words to say its octane rating is higher and, with a motor properly set up for the application, you can increase compression/boost safely without fear of detonating. Im not saying you're wrong and it IS good info...just already stated is all.

Or maybe you misunderstood me saying, "Seriously?" - I meant it in the MOST sarcastic way haha


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Originally Posted by Maila87 View Post
Why it is suggested not to use is fact, that bioethanol with over 10% in GAS is really corrosive and get outside moisture. For this reason is not transported by pipes like gas, or diesel.
All seals have to be corrosive free. It acts really bad with pure aluminum. So engine pistons and other components made from aluminum have to be protected with some non corrosive layer.

VW/AUDI forbid to use 5% or more bioethanol in Gas. But know is law for adding to 10% of adding bioethanol in Europe Union!
Also another obvious reason as to why it may not necessarily be safe to run in a stock 370Z, but thats pretty interesting to hear about VW/Audi's requirements, and just getting gas in the EU means you're breaking their requirements - I didnt know that.
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