bvl

Interesting read. You seem to be a bit over-sensitive to a few things. At the risk of you taking his personally, I advise you step back and analyze the way the world works.

You appear to want to be treated a certain way, yet you are ignoring the fact that dumb people abound us. Think of the average person of average intelligence. Then remember, 1/2 of everyone is dumber then that person.

This isn't to say every sales person is dumb...but the odds are in your favor that if you are an above average consumer...they are dumber then you.

You are emotionally vested: and that is what people want in any sales game. And its a game.

Recognize that you may be over extending yourself: if you have to borrow to buy the car, and you have limited credit, this may not be a *great* idea for you. Why? You are giving up some leverage in that you now need the dealer, or some banker to do you a solid in order for you to get the car. You already are in a bad position from a buyers perspective shopping for a limited edition item: this makes it a sellers position, not a buyers position.

I understand wanting to get into a car. In 1996 I was a young professional and had always loved Z's. Found out the Z32 was going out of production, and was all set to trade my Integra for a NA Z32 and things didn't work out.

My heart was broken at the time, but that is youth for you. It turned out to be a good thing for me, I just didn't know it at the time.

Fast forward 15 years I certainly am in a different financial position from working so long, I could easily buy a car I really wanted as well (NSX has always been my fav...or a Boxster as its still a Porsche) but I walked away from that idea as not a prudent thing to do. Things change. I stumbled into the 370z and remembered back to always loving Z's as a little kid and here I am, getting into a Z.

BTW, I got my Z used from a dealer in Maryland (Antwerpen). I am in PA and drove down on a whim one Saturday, and 3 hours later drove home with the car. 2010 ZR with 2500 miles. I dealt mostly with the sales *manager*, not the front end folks who often rotate in and out of the dealership.

Previously I worked with a dealer in Doylestown, PA who also was very fair and up front about a lot of things, but could not work a deal on a car with them. I wished I could because they were good professionals.

My first dealership was more annoying, as they were adversarial about pricing (40 AE, I know the market for it and its not that special of a car). Despite they continuing to try to convince me they were giving me a great price, I simply stated 'if you can get someone to pay for that, then good luck to you. I simply do not value the car as special. I know how much it cost, and how much it can go for. Thanks for the time.'

Good luck and in the end, just enjoy the drive as Mr K. told us all to do.

- b