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Old 10-12-2011, 01:25 AM   #67 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by CarsRfun View Post
I respectfully disagree, the STi, Mustang 5.0, and EVO dont have oil cooler issues, limp mode or braking issues...They arent a step down at all from a Z, as a previous poster said they may be a lateral step with an upward tilt.
The EVO comes with the superior brembo brakes, has a quicker 0-60 time and 1/4 mile time and was voted best handling car under 40k. Just because you've never owned one does not make them inferior in any way...you sound very biased. Ive driven the 370 z, my friend owns one by the way. Nice car but I value the room of my 4 door EVO, the AWD/all weather capability, excellent braking, handling, and thrust/torque 300ft/lbs.
To each his own...Id own a Z if my needs and wants were different.
I'm pretty sure they do have oil cooling issues. Just because many sports cars do not reach limp mode doesn't mean their oil does not reach critically hot temperatures and damage the engine, unless of course they come with oil coolers, which I believe none of the above cars do.

As for limp mode, apparently nissan finally addressed this issue by offering oem oil coolers on new Z models

And the Z doesn't have a "braking issue". It just has brakes that are not ideal for heavy duty track use, just like 99.99% of cars out there including many sports cars, even including more prestigious brands such as Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, BMW, etc. Almost any car out there, even sports cars, would need at least heavy duty pads and fluids before you even think of tracking them. Yes that includes mustangs and evos too. The whole "braking issue" thing has been blown way out of proportion ever since the apes on car and driver crashed their nismo. It's kinda like the oil temp issue which is also being blown out of proportion by owners who never track their car nor do they ever hit limp mode.

As far as performance of Evo vs Z, 0-60 and 1/4 mile are of course better with the evo due to the AWD traction vs RWD wheelspin of the Z. The turbocharged 4 banger however runs out of steam at high rpm and the Z is faster at higher speeds. As far as handling on a road course, laptimes of the Evo in different tracks around the world are about the same as or slightly slower than the Z. So handling is actually about the same, with a slight advantage to the Z. Actually the Z chassis is better balanced. The Evo is a bit heavier and nose heavy, like a FWD car. It's just that the AWD and fancy electronics compensate for that.
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