Originally Posted by Red__Zed

It is cyclical. Honda/toyota made shitty cars, then had to overreach to make their name. Once it was made, they rested on it...allowing the competition to catch up...

...sound familiar?

Nissan didn't build up their name quite as well as Honda did in the past, and so they're having to work now to get on that level.

I just hope Honda and Toyota wake up before they get to the point the American manufacturers had been.