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Old 07-30-2009, 12:36 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy View Post
When you have been doing this stuff for over 38 years you learn quickly what's a good ROI and what isn't as mods can put you out living in the street and broke real fast...particularly with novice naive beliefs such as yours.

There damn well is a definition or standard that is a defacto agreed upon understanding in the performance mods arena for determining ROI....ands its what I have stated above...$25 to $30 / 1-HP gain....I didn't just pull that number out of my azz you know....
What a piece of work. Do the following facts not compute for you?

1) Amount spent on car is completely unrelated to, and says nothing about, one's financial situation. I make a damn good living, and no amount of 370Z modding is going to put me "out living on the street and broke real fast". Perhaps for someone who works at McDonalds, even a hobby of painting plastic model planes once a month could do that, but that's neither here nor there. The point is, different people can afford different levels of spending on hobby stuff, and you're not the arbiter of what makes financial sense for anyone else.

2) A "dollars per horsepower" figure is senseless. Think of the extremes. A very small, fast, light car might weigh 1,800 lbs and have a 200hp engine. A 20hp bump in that car is worth a lot more (performance-wise) than a 20hp bump to a 4,500 lbs car that has a 400hp engine. Therefore there is no universal performance value for "20hp", it varies by car. Further than that, there is no universal standard for how much a unit of horsepower costs. Some cars are more expensive to mod. Some methods of modding are more expensive than others, because you're looking for other secondary effects (like throttle response and handling issues and lighter weight methods of adding the same power). Think about the case of a titanium exhaust system. Same power gains as a steel one, costs 3-4x more money for the same gains. Worth it to some, not to others.

I'm sorry if my "novice naive beliefs" offend you. I think your statements make no rational sense.
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