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Old 07-29-2011, 09:20 AM   #133 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by theDreamer View Post
Highly doubt that since I have a SC 370z and I know what a C6 Z06 can do in 2nd gear.
The point of the post was the car makes sacrifices to achieve fuel economy. I am saying not that is a huge negative (would love to have a LS7) but it has to do something to achieve its higher MPG which keeps it out of the gas guzzler field. Maybe GM should have invested in making a more modern engine instead of focusing on just larger displacement with its latest LS motors.
Maybe you should show me another engine that makes the same (or more) horsepower and gets the same (or better) economy.

The LS7 is just fine. It weighs around 450#, makes 505bhp, and will get 26mpg on the freeway in my experience.

Oh, it has a 5/100K mile warranty, too.

Go find me this "modern" engine that can equal that for $15K.

It doesn't exist.

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When did I say I had the best car?
Guess what, I almost bought a Z06 before the 370z but felt it was a bit out of my price range at the time so I went conservative. Does not change the fact that I feel the technology in the Vette is old and needs to be updated. Yes the gear skip is to beat CAFE, but GM needs to invest in a future, not games to beat a system.

Did you actually do any research on why the corvette has the engine that it does?

Have you actually compared the physical weight of the LS series engines (about 450#) to their competitors? Have you compared mileage? Have you compared power under the curve?

Noone gives a damn about displacement, it's a means to an end. What designers care about is power/weight, and the LS-series engines are KING in that department. Compare them to any N/A engine out there and you will find that the only one's that better them in physical power/weight cost roughly $50K and are found in AMG's. The LS7 costs $14K.

Now you bitch about mileage. Bring up skip-shift. Bring up all that crap.

Well why don't you go look at a 'vette with an LS3 and a slush-box? It gets 1mpg less in the city than the stick. It has no CAGS. It has an efficiency-robbing hydraulic tq converter.

CAGs. It's not doing all that you think it is.

Just because the LS3 and LS7 use old concepts does not mean that they are not cutting edge engines. Your tires are still round and all that. Doesn't mean the rubber around the rim is as old a design as the wheel-shape, if you get the drift.

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