There was a member here who had a new one that he was not going to put on for fear of destroying it. I think it was a vis. He showed a picture of it test fitted in the front of his car. I think he was asking $400. I commented in the thread, but I cannot find evidence in my history. If you have links to other lips, I would be interested in taking a look.
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Get some roosters for eggs and Bulls for milk . Then you will see that gender matters. Especially at milking time.
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