Originally Posted by FromG2Z

100 billion% agree. In fact, been talking to several folks about that lately. Even when talking to them/showing them our latest Honda's.... it's just not the same as they were, in both design, manufacturing, and quality standards. They've gotten lax and cheap IMO... like what happened to GM.
GM fell into a black hole in the late 90's/early 2000's. WIth the Corvette, they now lead the industry (or are in the top 3) for lowest PPH in that segment. They have called the C6 interior "an embarrassment" and are working to fix it with the C7. It remains to be seen. My take on it is that $100 more per car would have made a world of difference in the C6's interior, and yes they did get "cheap" on it.

Nissan on the other hand, imo, is edgy and state of the art. They're designs scream, plus look at the Leaf beating the Volt out to market, plus their innovations are timely and simple. I mean, look at the SRM on our cars. Simple concept if you think about it.... but yet NO one implemented it on a manual tranny until now. Same thing with the push button start. It was a first on my 2007 Altima... not many manufacturer's had that in the main stream. Now everyone's doing it. Nissan is nothing special in these areas. They use Ford engine technology in their GT-R, and their flagship sports car (not supercar--GT-R) has the least horsepower in its price-range unless we count 4-cylinders, and uses an outdated motor that they are limping along by designing new oils for it to quiet valve-train noise, etc. as a band-aid until they come out with something else. The styling is exceptional (in my opinion), but it too has love/hate proponents. It obviously does not appeal to as many people as other cars do given Nissan's sale numbers. I like it, and you like it, but we aren't entitled to our own facts.

GM had push-button/"keyless" start before Nissan did if you are accurate with your YM07 statement(C6 corvette).


Prop's to Nissan. I just own a couple of Honda's because one I had for over 10 years, the other was out of necessity (minivan.... not getting toyota or Chrysler). But chances are, I won't be getting another Honda... a new one, at least.