I've had sim. experience with Stillen. Some good some not. Overall I still order from them and get good service when things go right. Seems that they come out bad when there is a problem. Mine is with the side skirts. They do not fit on a vert but I still lost money on the return. They where not painted or altered but I payed a restocking fee. Hopefully not restocked into the vert section. I have not seen anybody post on here that Stillen skirts fit thier vert without modification. As for the good I have ordered and recieved many good products. One thing is that they should review orders. I ordered the eibach rear camber arms and a seperate toe bolt kit. The toe kit cost about $50 and is not needed as they are in the camber arm kit. I did not notice the listing of the kit that had the toe bolts listed. A quick e-mail to me asking if I really needed the extra kit would have been nice. Anyhow that is my two cents.