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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370
This is all fine and dandy and great information. But the topic at hand is being derailed. As far as being gentle on me??? Well you had info and schooled me... is there any reason to get at me harshly other than giving me the info. Anyway thank you for clearing up vette sales for me. I was always under the impression vettes sold more 2 seat sports cars, than any other 2 seat sports cars sold in america.
And as far as the Z being its own car or whatever. Again, hey that's great. My only point is. The car is still affordable enough for a huge chunk of society to obtain. The amount of people that can afford a 33k new car or a 26k used car is pretty high. So boy racer obtainable it is. As far as Z insurance being lower than audi... well that is purely subjective to the area of the United States you live in and what is going on in your area. When I insured my Z. I paid the same rate as my G37 and Altima for full coverage. My insurance is going up in june but its due to increased services. What my insurance will increase due to my accident is still unknown.
Back on the topic that excites and motivates me while going through all this B.S. that I'm going through, is the 370z refresh. I'm just wondering what will be addressed in the refresh. The Z interior is pretty nice for the price. The only thing I can think of is stereo upgrades. Its the only crappy thing on the Z interior. The nav option is among the best in the industry at any price range. Maybe adding a little more color selection on base model seats? Charcoal is the only fabric color. Maybe leather bolsters with cloth inserts will be added on base models like on the hyundai? Lol.
As far as fascia updates, I hope the 2012 grille gets closer to that blacked out GT-R sort of look. It would definately give the Z an awesome look. The Z looks awesome now but the blacked out design is the only design I can dream of worth changing its current look.
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The being gentle remark was a joke, which I guess didn't come across as intended. I think that there may be some confusion with obtainable vs. feasible. Yes, the majority of Americans buying new cars today can afford in some way or another a car priced between 26-40k. However this car has to be able to do far more things than the Z can, essentially making the Z completely unfeasible. I also never claimed that the Z was untouchable based on price, my point was that I believe it has a vastly lower "boy racer" appeal due to the fact that it's a standalone model, not a tarted up version of a lower end model.
In regards to the 2012 refresh, I would imagine sound dampening would be high on their list. While most people on here don't care, Nissan likely doesn't have their head in the sand when reading reviews and has taken note of everyone from Consumer Reports to Car and Driver pissing and moaning about how loud it is. I completely agree on the stereo setup, they should do away with the base, and make the Bose stock and add an upmarket setup for the Touring+Nav. The other things would be doing away with the gas gauge and adding other functions to the center gauge pods.