Originally Posted by semtex

What you want is Osiris Standard, which includes Cipher as well as three eTunes. That costs $700. If you're not going to do a real dyno tune, this makes more sense than Cobb (imo) because you actually send UpRev your data logs and they build you a map based on that data. That's pretty darn close to a proper dyno tune, I think. With Cobb, on the other hand, you just have to take their canned, one size fits all, staged maps. I think Cobb is a good option only if you're planning to use it in conjunction with a proper dyno tune.