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Originally Posted by christian370z
Thanks for confirming. It is a sports car, budget or not.
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Never said it wasn't. Have repeatedly been saying the Z is a sports car, but the entire argument was based on the fact that the Z was called a "pure sports car in every sense of the word". Loved my 370z, still do.
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Originally Posted by GZ3
whats the point of adding the "probably more like" number to your quotes?? Is that so you can seem like its doing more with less??!!? this is so childish you keep sing up you BMW man, i wouldnt take it over a Z for any track event, Ever. I got an oil cooler for 250!!!! My temps never go above 180-190 on waaay longer track events that what you posted, in texas heat. And about the brake pad issue, nissan, spec'd them out wrong, but the Z's brakes have amazing stopping power with a correct pad. The clamp force is there, just a bad spec'd pad that costs even less than my oil cooler...so again quit taking little indirect jabs at the 370Z by contrasting statements like "even my little girlie 135I blah blah blah". If some one called you car girly, they obviosly dont know too much. If you want to preach how much better you car is then a thread on your forum would be best. Most guys on here have allot of track time and experince to know what Z is and is capable and will not agree that your car is better. Hell i can guarentee if you go to track event and ask a wide variety of **enthusiasts** 8x out of 10 will pick Z over yours
The car pulls much harder on the street than the 370 did, which was confirmed by some DynoMaster for Android runs showing sub 10 second 0-100 times, where the Z could do around 12 seconds.
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First of all, the probably more like is related to the G's under acceleration graphs I had. It was pulling slightly harder on the tune that is supposed to make 370~ hp than the stock tune, which is where I'm basing that off of. Not to mention the fact that the 135 and 370 weights are near identical, and is slightly less aerodynamic...which produced similar top speeds on the straightaway. The just tells me about what my actual crank hp was...
I'm not preaching that the 135 is a better track car than the 370z in any way. I have over and over said the 370 is a better handling car, has decent power, and is therefore a great deal if you want a car you can reasonably drive a few or most days of the week that you'd like to also track.
I would pick a moderately modified 370z over a moderately modified 135i any day of the week if it came to which one I want to track, or hands down the 370 if money were no object.
Second of all, Dyno master for android is incredibly accurate. It was within 3 hp of my actual dyno numbers, and within .1 seconds of video timing for the 0-100 runs.
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Originally Posted by BLM
I have a lot of track time and I'll say that an old Miata is the best car to learn in. The Z has way too much power for a beginner. That's why I laugh when I see 17 year old's in 400 hp mustangs. Just asking for trouble.
Push, you shaved 4 secs off your lap time just with sway bars, HFC's, and exhaust? That's pretty nice.
GZ, do you use an aggressive street pad or a race pad?
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Yep, the 370z really responds to the hotchkis bars. I was easily able to outrun C6 Z06's through the curves with the sways and R-Comps. Without the sway bars the car had pretty massive understeer, comparatively. You can kill a driver that isn't totally comfortable with their car almost no matter what they have. I have some pics somewhere of me riding an ACR-X viper around a turn, he was pretty pissed. He even asked me if the car was turboed
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Originally Posted by christian370z
Push was arguing it wasn't earlier, I just quoted him for reference and responded.
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The 370 is a sports car, I never said that. I said it wasn't what I'd call a "pure sports car", because it is not. A pure sports car should be able to go from the showroom to the track with nothing changed and run hard the whole time. I am well aware that you can make it track ready for under $1000, but that is irrelevant in what we were arguing.
Once again, I love the 370z. It is a great car all around and can be quite a beast at the racetrack with a couple thousand in modifications. I would still have mine if I had the time or room for a third car, but at this point in my life I have two garage spaces, commute a ways to school, and still want to get on a track every couple of weeks. That's why I don't have it anymore, not because I think a 1 series is a better race car than a Z, because it is not.